![]() ![]() Would you want your child, mother, father, sibling to be dragged away unconscious and killed for a cure? Not even Jerry would’ve done it with Abby.All good things must come to an end. No parent wants their child taken away and used in some kind of medical experimentation. Ultimately, his choice was the only one that was actually for Ellie, and Ellie’s inner conflict in understanding this was Part 2. They made plans of teaching guitar, learning to swim, going to Jackson after they were done. When you feel guilty for being alive, then sacrificing yourself sounds like a great thing, doesn't it? Her wanting to sacrifice herself is similar to a deeply depressed person wanting to kill themselves - it stems from trauma.Īs for Joel - well he also had no reason to believe Ellie wanted to sacrifice herself. It's survivor's guilt that she relives with Tess, with Sam, and with everyone else she has to witness die to infection. It gave her a fatalistic view towards it - it was for a reason she is alive, that everyone else dies but she doesn't - she is the key to a cure. Why? Then Marlene says to her "she might be the key to finding a cure". Ellie being so fixated on the cure is due to the traumatic way she found out about her immunity in the first place - she was infected together with her first love, yet Riley died but she lived. Anyway, Jerry (and Marlene) were trying to find atonement for the Fireflies’ actions and save the failing organization on the brink of collapse.Īs for her willingness, this is also a mess. Except obviously, that all the actions they committed had nothing to do with their sudden success. They needed something to show for it, and like you said they were how far someone was taking how the ends justify the means. See the writings on the wall in the museum flashback, or hell Part 1 opens with them blowing up a checkpoint in downtown Boston. It’s been 20+ years and what was once a organization trying to rebuild society mutated into pretty much a terrorist organization. The Fireflies were also an organization near the brink of collapse. It was taking away her autonomy in the worst way - taking away the most basic human right her right for life. The fact that the Fireflies didn't bother asking is because they did not care about her choice. Please correct me if I made anything up, its been something like 7-8 years I think. A "good" aligned group would put their case forward to the person needing to make the sacrifice and keep badgering them with good arguments until they step up, that did not feel like a "good" group. Was there something in the story that justified they needed to operate on her before she could be allowed to make the decision for herself that I missed? Joel definitely went overboard murdering everybody, lots of deaths that could have been avoided, but I thought his initial reaction was justified in that this group looked like a bunch of authoritarians that believe in the ends justify the means. My reaction to that was, well shouldn't this be Ellie's choice if she wants to make that sacrifice for such a small chance. ![]() ![]() The Doctor's said they're going to operate on her which will kill her but give them some small tiny chance of success. I thought when Joel and Ellie turn up at the Fireflies, Ellie was unconscious. Its been many years since I played it but I remember it differently to all the drama thats come out of Last of Us 2 if someone could refresh my memory on what actually happened and what I remembered wrong. ![]()
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